As seen in the article at this link, John Piper is backpedaling to avoid offending Rome. Is John Piper soft on Rome? Piper states:
“I think Rome and Protestantism are not yet ready – I don’t think the Reformation is over.”
Of course, that quote is nothing compared to what I’m about to share with you regarding the article at the above link, as well as many other articles and links regarding Piper’s beliefs [be sure to click on the various hyperlinks in this article to read even more articles]. While the Vatican popes may or may not be the Final Anti-Christ, they are definitely anti-Christ and this belief has been held for hundreds of years by the major Protestant Reformers.
Those who understand the incredible gulf between the Baal beliefs of Catholicism and the beliefs of Christians in the Bible are all too aware that John Piper must either be incredibly naive (which is doubtful) or a “Pied Piper” for the Catholic ecumenical movement that has been promoted since Vatican II by the Pope in an effort to lead everyone into the Roman fold of power.
I’m not the only one who sees the danger of Piper’s beliefs as can be seen in the article at this link, the article at this link, and also in the article at this link. Piper obviously thinks that Rome, after five hundred years of the Reformation, has changed and is close to reform as seen in the article at this link. He must think that if a “better Pope” can make a few tweaks, then everything will be hunky-dory, eh? Further, articles as seen at this link, show how far down the trail of false teaching that John Piper has really gone. Those who are naive enough to think that the Vatican changed during the 1960s during Vatican II need to read the article at this link.
A few of the things that create a vast gulf between Biblical teaching and Catholic teaching include the following false teachings found in Baal worship but not in the Bible as seen at this site located at this link:
- Mother of heaven goddess
- Mother and Child worship
- Baptismal Salvation
- The Mass
- The Solar Wafer (Eucharist)
- The Sovereign Pontiff
- Prayers for the Dead
- The Rosary
- The Sign of the Cross
- The Confessional
- Clothing and Crowning of Images
- Priests, Monks, and Nuns
- Relic Worship
- Worship of the Sacred Heart
- Extreme Unction
John Piper is not only seen as being connected to a number of false teachers and lovers of Rome through his Desiring God website and conferences, and in fellowship with Rick Warren, N.T. Wright, and Doug Wilson of Federal Vision, but is now seen as someone who no longer considers the Vatican to be a bastion of heresy. After he called their beliefs on justification “heresy”, he recanted his statement and stated that it was not “heresy”, but only “error”.
After making this correction in the before-mentioned article, John Piper in such a context then said the following weak statement that appeared to favor an apology for the Gospel rather than a defense for it:
“I am thankful that God is willing to save us even when our grasp of the gospel may be partial or defective. None of us has a comprehensive or perfect grasp of it.”
In saying this in the context of changing his statement from calling the Pope a heretic to simply calling him guilty of “error”, John Piper is showing grace to the Pope that the Apostle Paul never shows.
In fact, the Apostle Paul said in Galatians regarding those who change the gospel “Let them be accursed [damned]” and he also states that he wishes they were “cut off”. Not only did Piper change his statement from “heresy” to “error”, but his own restructured and reformed “Baptist” Catechism endorses salvation through Baptism and the LORD’s Supper as can be seen at this link. Piper writes in his book “Future Grace”:
“When the Old Testament says that covenant-keeping is the condition for receiving God’s lovingkindness, that’s what it meant … all the covenants of God are conditional covenants of grace–both the old covenant and the new covenant. They offer all-sufficient future grace for those who keep the covenant.”
When Piper says “conversion”, he is speaking of “covenant-keeping”. Saying words that sound Biblical but defining them differently than the Bible is deceptive.
Piper uses the term “covenants” to sound more Presbyterian, but the term he should be using is “sacraments” since there’s not much difference between his “covenants” and Rome’s sacraments in how they’re used.
To validate this point, I refer to Piper’s “Baptist” Catechism, where we read:
“Question 98: How do Baptism and the Lord’s Supper become effective means of salvation?
Answer: Baptism and the Lord’s Supper become effective means of salvation, not from any virtue in them or in him that administers them, but only by the blessing of Christ, and the working of his Spirit in those who by faith receive them.
Question 99: How do Baptism and the Lord’s Supper differ from the other ordinances of God?
Answer: Baptism and the Lord’s Supper differ from the other ordinances of God in that they were specially instituted by Christ to represent and apply to believers the benefits of the new covenant by visible and outward signs.”
Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are purely symbolic as can be seen in Scripture, but not according to the Vatican and not according to John Piper. While Paul the apostle in the Book of Galatians states that works are strictly off-limits as means of grace or means to salvation (and he uses the symbolic work of circumcision as an example of an unneeded implement for salvation), John Piper and the Catholic Church are convinced otherwise.
To prove this to be true, you can hear Piper himself stating in the video at this link that he believes circumcision and baptism correspond to each other (circumcision is ironically the very example that Paul used to show that nothing more is needed for salvation and if baptism is also a symbolic covenant then the same applies to it as well).
The Pope and Piper have doctrine that runs along the lines of Baal worship which promoted works salvation through wafers and baptism as can be seen in historical books on Babylonian religious practice.
In the article at this link, Rick Hogaboam, who claims to be more into “Pentecostal Sacrementalism” tells how he agrees with Piper on the Baptismal salvation of believers., and then Mr. Hogaboam quotes from Dr. Piper’s sermon to prove that Piper teaches salvation by covenantal Baptism. The problem is Paul the Apostle disagrees, since he taught that no covenants are required for salvation.
On his site “Desiring God”, John Piper continually hops from one side of the justification issue to the other. It’s dizzying to read after him, because one moment he says that works are not needed and the next moment, he implies that they are needed through covenant-keeping of Baptism and the Lord’s Supper. Where does he stand? I’ve read enough of his writing to say that I don’t think he wants us to know. He claims to be the son of a fundamentalist. Well, I have news for John Piper. Being a fundamentalist or an evangelical won’t get you to heaven.
Only the true gospel of Christ has the power to save, not a legalistic gospel. Piper admits that he is also charismatic in the video at this link.
To learn more about the dangers of the Charismatic movement, be sure to visit the article at this link. While Piper claims to be a Calvinist, even that aspect of Piper’s beliefs are shaky as seen in the video at this link. Piper supports heretics on YouTube as can be seen in the video at this link (in response to whether the heretical Doug Wilson and heretical N.T. Wright preach another gospel):
“No. That’s easy. Doug Wilson doesn’t preach another Gospel. O.K., I don’t think N.T. Wright preaches a false Gospel either; I think N.T. Wright preaches a very confusing Gospel.”
Even errant Dr. MacArthur, who has embraced “means of grace sanctification” and who believes that one can take the mark of the beast and still be saved“, has a different view of N.T. Wright’s “gospel” as can be seen in the article at this link where he makes no qualms about the fact that he sees N.T. Wright’s teachings as false teaching.
Beyond theological heresy, Piper’s morals seem to be in question as well and his unwillingness to comply with the apostle Paul’s requirements of elders seems to have gone unheeded by him as seen in this Christianity Today article at this link. According to John Piper, it appears that he sees the day that Protestants and Romanism will sit on the edge of the waters of ecumenicism swinging their feet together and singing “Kum-Ba-Yah”.
When one of the most popular evangelical and fundamentalist preachers is John Piper whose doctrine is Charismatic, ecumenical, and full of Roman sacraments, then we have undoubted confirmation that the great “falling away” is upon us.
“You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?” – Galatians 3:1-3
In closing, why are we naming John Piper?
Question: Did the apostles mark false teachers by name?
Answer: Yes, they did.
- Hymenaeus and Alexander – 1 Timothy 1:19-20
- Phygellus and Hermogenes – 2 Timothy 1:14-15
- Hymenaeus and Philetus – 2 Timothy 2:17-18
- Diotrephes – 3 John 1:9-10
Question: Who in the Bible told us to mark and shun heretics?
Answer: GOD did using the Apostle Paul as His oracle!
“Now I urge you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” – Romans 16:17 (Greek word ‘skopeō’ means “mark”; Greek word ‘ekklinō’ means “shun”)
Question: Where else is the idea of separation mentioned in the Bible (as in separating from false teachers like John Piper)?
Answer: GOD in His Holy Word used the Apostle John as His orator to state:
“If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that bids him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” – 2 John 1:10-11
Question: Whose job is it to defend the Faith? Pastors? Deacons? Authors? Radio ministries? Television ministries?
Answer: Yes, it is all of their duty, but it is also the duty of literally every believer to defend the faith from false teachers.
“Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.” – Jude 1:3 (Greek word ‘epagōnizomai’ means “contend, contest, grapple, argue”)
Question: How important is heresy?
Answer: “Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.” – 2 John 1:9
Question: What are some verses that explain why baptismal salvation is heresy?
Answer: “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” – 1 Corinthians 1:17 “Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?” – Acts 10:47 “I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius” – 1Cr 1:14 “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.” – Galatians 5:6 “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.” – Ephesians 2:8-9
Many other answers to this question can be found in the article at this link. To those who were trying to add circumcision and other outward actions and works to the simple gospel of faith that Paul preached, GOD used the Apostle Paul to say:
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel– not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be ANATHEMA. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be ANATHEMA.” – Galatians 1:6-9 (Greek word “anathema” means “without hope of being redeemed, doomed to destruction”)
Stand strong today for GOD. Others are counting on you.